Richard Oliver

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  Is the Dubbers cult going to more digital than printed?

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know they have slave labor free but it costs a lot to print, ship ect and then you have waste.

  digital would cut costs.

  i was thinking about this because my wife visited her mother an father who are still cult members.

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  Also, you have to look at the simple fact that people in the public tend not to read printed things anymore. Even major papers and magazines have either greatly reduced or eliminated their printing operations and has gone to digital only or pushing digital copies more. Newsweek has gone to a digital only format and the New York Time has greatly reduced their printed copies because no one wants print anymore.

  The cost of technology has been reduced dramatically for consumers. Yes an iPad pro maybe 1000 dollars US, but that is not the only technology. The cost barrier for tablet technology has almost disappeared, with an entry level tablet costing around 60-100 dollars US. While they will still print for people who want a printed piece of material, but they do discourage it for people who will always use a tablet and just want a printed bound volume in order to complete their collection and never actually use it.
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  "New Light" and the Watchtower's quasi legal disclaimer

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found this interesting quasi legal religious statement at the bottom of this 》》》 jw.org page advertising "bible-based books and magazines":.

  some updates made to digital publications may not yet appear in the printed edition.. glad to know that jehovah and the governing body have seen fit to inform the entire world that certain doctrinal teachings of "truth" may differ between digital and print edition of the watchtower magazine and bible-based books.

  doesn't say much for the credibility of the guardians of doctrine.. confusingly, some of the doctrinal teachings, particularly in the online versions of bible-based books and magazines from the watchtower, have already undergone updates but these updates only appear in the new digital version of the new printed edition.. good thing we have a digital-only version of the "research guide for jehovah's witnesses" which is updated every year to contain all the references to the new teachings and interpretations of the bible.

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  The changes tend to be spelling or grammatical issues that may have slipped past proofreading. They may also be like formatting issues but not of actual content or the meaning behind something. Also there are pictures that may be different for one culture than for another. For instance there may be pictures that have more Asian individuals in a picture, for an Asian speaking language than in the English American or European picture. So it is a lot of just little things and not actual content.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Scratches. First the first post that u posted was the complaint. A lawyer can make any accusation that they want. Second what I posted is from the courts either written opinion on appeal or the judges decision on a motion for summary judgment. If u don't believe me look it up.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  First of all by definition a legal case can only be won or loss in a court case. I never said it was right. I present actual facts. Like court after Court judges have ruled that watchtower does not have a fiduciary duty to publishers, the duty to protect or warn. Everyone here can argue if those things are either correct or should be over turned but that doesn't negate that those are the facts atleast in the US. It is part of American law that a person doesn't have to protect a third party if they have no legal duty to do so. Again I in no way says that is right or wrong. But that is facts of the law
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Yes I have read the ARC report. And when I do research I go on westlaw or lexisnexis and search watchtower and read every case that, that word comes up. And btw facts are not biased. Facts are facts.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  All I presented was actual facts not conjecture or speculation.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Yes outlaw how dare I show an analogy with the use of another complex situation. Oh wait you can't think of complex situations because your brain can't comprehend those types. Everything is one cause and therefore one solution.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Richard Oliver

  Just because you recognize a matter, no matter how bad it is, is a complex issue that will require a complex solution doesn't mean you are trying to distract from something. There is a huge issue with people overdosing on opioids, with many contributing factors. Just because people try and attack an issue from many different sides doesn't mean that they are distracting from from other causes.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  I said no corporation associated with watchtower meaning that watchtower is not making money off of these items. I made that point because people on this thread immediately said it was a way for watchtower to make more money. I said what I said to highlight watchtower does not make money off of them.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  Richard Oliver

  I do apologize. Appartently color is not part of the trademark. The trademark that is specific to jw.org is

  Indication of Colors claimed

  Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark.

  Description of Mark

  The mark consists of the stylized letters "JW.ORG" within a square design, where the characters "JW." appear above the "ORG".